Bystanders should not try to stop minors from stealing alcohol.
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| Started: | 4/3/2008 | Category: | Society |
| Updated: | 7 months ago | Status: | Voting Period |
| Viewed: | 311 times | Debate No: | 3504 |
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Let me start off by saying that this has never happened to me personally. Don't get me wrong, I've stolen more than my share of liquor as a youth(best night: seven bottles, two 24 packs!). In all those instances, people either ignored myself and my friends or cheered us on. Recently, my friend recounted a story in which a "hero" tackled him to the ground while trying to get away with a 30-pack of MGD. We both agreed it was completely uncalled for. But anyway, this guy (an alleged body-builder) sat on him until the manager and security guard arrived. They felt so bad for the kid, for being tackled by a hulking maniac, that they released him with a slap on the wrist (this paricular Fry's is now off limits).
Stores have security for a reason. Also, there is the police department. Civilians and bystanders have no right to act as law enforcement. But all this is beside the point I'm really trying to make (although not stated in the resolution)which is that it's okay for juveniles to steal alcohol. I'll stop there and expand on this as my rebuttal.
Firstly, I'd like to point out that I am in favor of lowering the drinking to 18, however, I will want to focus entirely on your idea that it should be OK to steal alcohol so long as you are a minor, and that nobody has the right to stop your theft. People have the right to Life, Liberty, and Property, allowing minors to 'steal alcohol' takes property rights away from owners of alcohol. |
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I also agree that the drinking age should be lowered. It's ridiculous that we are granted the right to jeopordize our lives and lungs through war and cigarettes but are denied the same opportunity with our liver.
I know I kind of changed the resolution in the last part of my opener but I would like to actully still debate it also. As for what you want to "focus on entirely", allow me to clarify. I hold the position that it is generally acceptable and tolerable for minors to shoplift alcohol from grocery or conveniance stores. This is obviously not the case for the owners or employess of such establishments, but this is when the actual topic of this debate becomes relevant. I am speaking of bystanders and pedestrians in or around the stores. Let me offer the following scenario: It's Friday night in Detroit and two attractive females you're aquainted with want to hang out. They eventually want to start drinking, as is the impulse for hot, slutty girls on a Friday night. (Did I mention they were slutty?) All three of you are under legal drinking age and you just got mugged. (This is Detroit, remember). Your walking along the sidewalk, contemplating how to get some booze. The three of you eventually walk into a local grocery store, it is 11:30 with only one checkout lane open. There are few employees as the store will close shortly. The girls wander over to the alcohol isle and start pressuring you to take a bottle of grey goose. You are apprehensive at first but quickly stuff the bottle in your pants following mention of fellatio. -At this juncture, I say it is okay to put that bottle in your pants, walk out of that store, and get intoxicated with these two girls which will no doubt end in a sensational three-way. I add that no bystander has the right to try and stop you and ruin your chances to score. Do you disagree? DucoNihilum forfeited this round. |
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Any person trying to stop me from getting faded is getting shot with the CANNON!
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In this case, we are talking about the initial drinking age. Few young teenagers are alcohol addicts.
Here in NZ, children can also drink alcohold legally - even in a pub, if accompanied by their parents. A very rare site just the same.
Very weird that in the US they can't drink with their parents after 18. Clearly this anomaly should be corrected. I would expect it wouldn't be hard.
You make some good points about the problems with inconsistency. Take heart, complete prohibition was rolled back because they didn't want a law in place that was so widely flouted.
Cheers
Don't make the same mistake.
Instead of 18-year-olds trying to get alcohol, you get 16-year-olds.
They become more drunk, then they try to drive...