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aaronm
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DucoNihilum
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In-school suspension for fighting is better than out-of-school suspension.

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Started: 5/24/2008 Category: Education
Updated: 3 months ago Status: Voting Period
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aaronm

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I believe in-school suspension is better because most kids want to be out of school anyway, so I think of it as a punishment.
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DucoNihilum

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As for fights and violence go, out of school suspensions will be more favorable than in school suspensions. Removing two violent people from the situation in which they are violent is a good thing. Allowing them to go to school for this could cause more fighting, especially if both are in the same in school suspension room at one time (as most schools do). Allowing them to use in school suspension will just cause more violence, something the school is trying to prevent.
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aaronm

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In an in school suspension program, the kids are put in different rooms and will do the work they would miss if they were suspended out of school. A paid teacher or a substitute will be watching the kids. Some kids will be willing to do that work as others will not, but there is a big difference between having an in-school suspension program and having an effective one. Also, if the kids who got suspended are out of school, they can cause as much trouble out of school than in school.
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DucoNihilum

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 Debate Round No. 2
aaronm

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DucoNihilum

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AFAIK no, the kids are not put into different rooms. Even if they were, that would be incredibly inefficient. At that point, you would need several teachers, and if you are to go to the extreme- one teacher per student, it becomes incredibly expensive (teachers AND free rooms) inefficient. Students are less likely to cause trouble out of school than in school, there's far less of a chance of direct contact. If out of school contact is still made, then there is nothing that can be done to prevent the violence. Out of school suspension programs are far more efficient, and safe than in school suspension programs for violent students.
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Posted by stevor 3 months ago
stevor
Admit it, there are idiots running all kinds of places. Back when I was in middle school, there were rules about the lenght of one's hair. It couldn't go over the eyebrows, touch the ears, or touch the collar. I was a naughty smart kid who actually let his hair get a bit shaggy and at least twice got sent to the vice-principal because of it.

Sometimes, such as when a fight breaks out, a good kid who was attacked and defended them self ends up getting suspended because there either weren't witnesses or the witnesses were bad.

Yeah, the school system isn't perfect and as an algebra teacher, I think they teach math wrong from Kindergarten to algebra (but I'm working on fixing that). Don't whine (and I'm not accusing you of doing so, but I really hate those who do so), work to fix problems.
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Posted by aaronm 3 months ago
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Kids are put in to different rooms, and you are basically saying that all kids that get suspended are bad. I'm a good student but I have been suspended. Here's a link to in-school suspension stuff. Check it out. http://www.educationworld.com...
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Posted by stevor 3 months ago
stevor
with schools getting money ("average daily attendance" or ADA) for kids being in school, schools prefer to keep them there. If there is some program (some are peer run) where the real problems can be talked about and resolved, then it's good to keep them in school.
As a high school teacher, I definitely want some kids being sent home, mainly to make the parents deal with the fact that their kids are a problem and the school system isn't just a big babysitter for them.
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Posted by HellKat 3 months ago
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In-school suspension is better for people who skip-off of school.
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