Jesus Christ Has Not Done Everything In His Power To Save People From Hell.

Being Pro, I support that the Christian god has not done everything in his power to save his people from eternal damnation.

He may have given us the opportunity to be saved, but this is presuming that he exists. The biggest step of all is to believe that he exists, and I do not believe he has done everything in his might to prove to everyone he exists either.

It is up to con to prove that he has done everything in his power to save us from eternal damnation. Already, billions of people are suffering in hell (supposing he exists of course) because he has not done everything in his power to prevent this.

Hello, and thank you for bringing up this debate. i go to a christian school... which might help me :P

first off, i would like to quote you
"He may have given us the opportunity to be saved, but this is presuming that he exists. The biggest step of all is to believe that he exists, and I do not believe he has done everything in his might to prove to everyone he exists either. "
Also, to make things easier, I beleive in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. Let us pretend (even if you don't) that you refer to thge christian faith as if it is real, so we don't get completely off topic... I worded that wrong, best I can do.

Why does he have to prove it? All religion is based around faith, and you took up a scientific standpoint. You don't "beleive" in science, you back it with evidence. Religion is the exact opposite. You put your faith in him, and that alone can and will save you from hell.

I want to quote some things, that will hopefully show that he does not have to prove himself and be physically here to be known to everyone, because it is pure faith

Scripture is clear that if you seek, you will find (Deut. 4:29). Of course, "seek" means seek, and God responds to a serious and diligent effort (Prov. 2:1-6; Matt. 7:7-11).

If you put FAITH in him, he proves himself. Why should he prove himself to probably don't even care

I beleive Jesus did enough. He shouldn't have to say "wow, we are in a desolate land with no technology. heres a computer, go play." No, he doesn't have to, and he shouldn't have to. People that contstantly perform miracles are fakes.... Like ancient egyptians, many of there prophets utilized this stuff that made wild sparks and then small explosions as signs... Stupid. We know how to do that now, but what HAVEN'T we figured out? How to cure cripples, leppers, and the bling with skin and saliva. Jesus performed miracles to better the world, and many others did to wow people. Jesus wanted people to beleive in him trhough truth, not through amazing acts.

" Hello, and thank you for bringing up this debate. i go to a christian school... which might help me :P"

ew.

"Also, to make things easier, I beleive in God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit."

Yes, those three buddies are included. "Triune"

"Why does he have to prove it? All religion is based around faith, and you took up a scientific standpoint. You don't "beleive" in science, you back it with evidence. Religion is the exact opposite. You put your faith in him, and that alone can and will save you from hell."

If your religion is based solely on blind faith, then why do you deny all the other gods of every other religion? Or is it perhaps because you think you have evidence in support for your god? How do we KNOW whether or not God exists? How do we KNOW which religion to choose? If God just appeared and showed himself, billions of people would not have to burn in hell. How can you justify the eternal suffering of billions of people simply because they had "faith" in the wrong religion? How were they supposed to know which religion was the right one?

Heck, basically, why is to God, faith superior to rational thinking?

I don't neccisarily beleive that if you are a different religion, then you burn in hell. All sins are equal, and you are judged on your heart.

"If your religion is based solely on blind faith, then why do you deny all the other gods of every other religion? Or is it perhaps because you think you have evidence in support for your god? How do we KNOW whether or not God exists? How do we KNOW which religion to choose? If God just appeared and showed himself, billions of people would not have to burn in hell. How can you justify the eternal suffering of billions of people simply because they had "faith" in the wrong religion? How were they supposed to know which religion was the right one?"
How do we know an atom exsists? How about the ozone layer? How about gravity? How about intelligent life? Whether people admit it or not, space is infinate, and it'd be extremely ignorant of us to assume that other intelligent life didn't exsist. How was EVERYTHING created, even space? The only answers we have are God, and he proved himself to me.

"I don't neccisarily beleive that if you are a different religion, then you burn in hell. All sins are equal, and you are judged on your heart."

Um, isn't the whole point of the Christian theology that if you do not accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior you will go to hell?

"How do we know an atom exsists? How about the ozone layer? How about gravity? How about intelligent life? Whether people admit it or not, space is infinate, and it'd be extremely ignorant of us to assume that other intelligent life didn't exsist. How was EVERYTHING created, even space? The only answers we have are God, and he proved himself to me."

Obviously, you don't know something about SCIENCE. We can show you with evidence that an atom exists. When can show you how our ozone layer even FORMED. All the rest, we've verified and tested with science. God of the Gaps, ever heard? God isn't our only answer. If he was, we'd be cavemen still.

But besides that, my opponent has completely missed the point of the debate. He has failed to show why Jesus Christ has done everything in his power to save people from hell. His only argument was that we should have faith, and that was shown to be easily refuted, so vote pro!

I don't feel debating with someone quite as ignorant as you. I'm not calling you ignorant for beleiving in God, because i just recently converted from athiasm, but if you guys look at his arguements, he twisted things around and lied.

Also
I meant how did the Greeks know an atom exsists. I kinda-sorta worked it into an anology, because you can't EVER be 100% sure about something unless you can harness it and see it... Hence gravity and the ozone layer