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The Instigator
pune123
Pro (for)
Losing
36 Points
The Contender
Spiral
Con (against)
Winning
48 Points

LIFE IS AN ONION

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Started: 5/24/2008 Category: Education
Updated: 6 months ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 456 times Debate No: 4166
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pune123

Pro

life is full of ups and downs.. it is a vicious circle..which is full of sorrows and happiness.. when we see onion it is covered with several layers similarly a human life is covered with several roles.. and each role is full of responsiblities which might look good from outer side (like an onion) but as u come across it different phases u start realising the obstacles, hurdles -destiny brings for u.. when we cut onion tears comes out of our eyes.. similarly when someone hurts our feeling or doesn't meet to our expectation we feel depressed and undergo same situation..
Spiral

Con

"life is full of ups and downs.. it is a vicious circle..which is full of sorrows and happiness.. when we see onion it is covered with several layers similarly a human life is covered with several roles.. and each role is full of responsiblities which might look good from outer side (like an onion) but as u come across it different phases u start realising the obstacles, hurdles -destiny brings for u.. when we cut onion tears comes out of our eyes.. similarly when someone hurts our feeling or doesn't meet to our expectation we feel depressed and undergo same situation.."

A Shrek debate, how fun. :D

Onions and Humans are from different Kingdoms (Animalia, Plantae)

"life is full of ups and downs.. it is a vicious circle..which is full of sorrows and happiness"

An onion is not sentient, nor can it experience emotion.

"when we see onion it is covered with several layers similarly a human life is covered with several roles"

Onion layers perform the same role, nutrient storage, and the transmission of water and nutrients to other layers.

"might look good from outer side (like an onion) but as u come across it different phases u start realising the obstacles, hurdles -destiny brings for u."

An onion's different phases are merely about its biological development and with the vagaries of nature; the onion's life is not set in destiny.

"when we cut onion tears comes out of our eyes.. similarly when someone hurts our feeling or doesn't meet to our expectation we feel depressed and undergo same situation.."

Your analogy is flawed.

I."when we cut onion tears comes out of our eyes"
Self > action > tears
II."when someone hurts our feeling or doesn't meet to our expectation we feel depressed and undergo same situation"
Other > action > tears

To be analogous the other person would have to cry when they hurt us; or the onion cry when we cut it.

So there we have it, the onion is not like us.
Debate Round No. 1
58 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 51 through 58 records.
Posted by Paradigm_Lost 6 months ago
Paradigm_Lost
"I see many of Spiral's arguments, but the resolution never goes specifically defined in either speeches so I have to revert to the framework presented in the first speech. Spiral neglects to veiw the resolution as a metaphore and misquotes the resolution in her closing remark"

I agree. Spiral appears to intentional skew the debate by avoiding the obvious metaphor in favor of a debate about semantics. It seemed rather disingenuous to try and manipulate the debate like that. And since I see nothing inaccurate about PRO's stance, however tenuous it might be, I therefore declare PRO as the winner in my book.
Posted by Spiral 6 months ago
Spiral
Hardly, analogy and metaphor are subtly different, you are confusing poetic use of metaphor with pune123's analogy.
Posted by mors202 6 months ago
mors202
well, there goes half the meaning and depth of many poetic works right there...
Posted by Spiral 6 months ago
Spiral
Her arguments were analogous and based on physicalities. Life is a physical experience, you can not draw analogies of emotion with a non emotional object, yes life may have ups and downs, but an onion doesnt quite simply. To be analogous the objects must have a common basis for comparison. A layer of vegetable matter in no way reflects the complexities of human experience.
Posted by mors202 6 months ago
mors202
It is an analogy that is argued by taking it literally. I think that Spiral missed the point of the debate; namely, to argue this on a metaphysical, for lack of a better word, level.
Posted by Vi_Veri 6 months ago
Vi_Veri
I doubt that's a real picture of her, Jamcke lol....
Posted by UUAA 6 months ago
UUAA
I vote pro.

I see many of Spiral's arguments, but the resolution never goes specifically defined in either speeches so I have to revert to the framework presented in the first speech. Spiral neglects to veiw the resolution as a metaphore and misquotes the resolution in her closing remark:

"the onion is not like us"

That's not the question, the question lies in the metaphore of the human life being described to have traits similar to those of an onion.
Posted by Jamcke 6 months ago
Jamcke
I'm voting pro. Partly because there are at least some aspects of this analogy that make sense, and partly because pune123 is smokin hot
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