Late term abortion is worse than early abortion.

i am against all types of abortion, however, I blieve late term abortion is worse than normal abortion. In late term abortion the fetus can be born, and will most likely live. Also anybody who is capable of going through the first two trimesters, without an abortion does not need one in the third trimester. By giving the late term abortion the pain will be the same whether the child is born or murdered. If the child is unwanted adoption is always open.

Even if you don't believe abortion is murder, you should believe that if at the time you get the abortion the child can be alive, that should classify as murder.

Most common arguements: "If the child is adopted the child will grow uo knowing [s]he is unwanted."
void, you don't have to tell the child [s]he is adopted, infants are more likely to be adopted than any other age group anyway.

"If the child is kept, it will be made clear [s]he is unwanted, and that would be worse for him/her than being slaughtered as an infant."

though that could be a good arguement, nobody says that the child must be kept, as i said before, adoption is the only "A" word for giving up a child, that is morally correct.

First of all, thank you for inviting me to this interesting debate. I can't say I share you view though. I've never been a big fan of abortion. I've always seen the personal issue similarly to your description, an easy way out in most circumstances. But the reason abortion is, and always should be legal is a matter of the personal right too make a choice. I will give you two reasons why a late term abortion is just as viable as one in the first 2 trimesters.

First of all, I make my argument assuming we are both on the same ground about early abortions.

1) Economics: One of the reasons a mother has an abortion is because the father walks out on her, or she simply cant afford to have a baby at the time. I know, you seem to think adoption is an easy option, and in some circumstances, it may be, but certain places both in the US and around the world dont have adequate adoption facilities/programs, so they could be made similarly to an unheathy babies. Bringing me to...

2) Health of the child: According to the 2007 Surgeon General's Medical Report, 43% of pre-natal medical abnormalities or conditions are developed during or after the second trimester. If we agree the early term abortions are reasonable for this reason (health), than late terms are just as reasonable.

I thank my opponent for accepting this debate.

"...the reason abortion is, and always should be legal is a matter of the personal right too make a choice..."

Since everone can agree that the child could be born and survive, at any time in the third trimester, I veiw it especially as murder. I don't agree with abortion at all, but late term abortion is worse, because of the fact that the baby could have been out at the time of the abortion.

"1) Economics: One of the reasons a mother has an abortion is because the father walks out on her, or she simply cant afford to have a baby at the time. I know, you seem to think adoption is an easy option, and in some circumstances, it may be, but certain places both in the US and around the world dont have adequate adoption facilities/programs, so they could be made similarly to an unheathy babies. Bringing me to..."

If the father walks out on her she can get child support, if they were married, can she not? Even if the answer of child support is there is no way she could ever get it, what about in family adoption? Like if that was the case with my mother, she could have given me to her sister, or her mother, or even her father. Chances are the woman has some kind of family. That can go financially too. Chances are the mother knows somebody that would love to have a baby, or would like to help.

2) Health of the child: According to the 2007 Surgeon General's Medical Report, 43% of pre-natal medical abnormalities or conditions are developed during or after the second trimester. If we agree the early term abortions are reasonable for this reason (health), than late terms are just as reasonable.

We have not agreed that physical and mental abnormalties=should be put to death.
Thus we cannot agree on the abortion being reasonale.

Im not sure what world you live in where all pregnant couples are married and thus entitled to child support. I also dont know why you would assume that all women have families they can turn to for help (especially in the places i mentioned wouldnt have suitable foster systems). There are millions of babies born every year in the world and not all of them are born in houses w. married parents (or two parents at all) and families. Sure, if you have the means to protect a born child, than you should have them and do it. Im talking about people who would literally have their lives (and the life of the child) runied by not having an abortion.

As far as health, i am not advocating putting an unborn fetus to death because it would be born handicapped, but physical and mental abnormalities do not only effect the child, the effect the mother as well. If you're pregnant and your child develops cancer in the womb, the longer its in there, theres more of a cahnce the cancer spreads to you via blood stream.

But that brings me to another problem, you say that abortion is murder, but why are you setting perameters for when life begins? I hear people saying that once there is a heart beat, or a brain wave, the life is official, but says who? The being isn't concious and cant exist on its own. A dead person can have a heart beat and brain activity for hours, sometimes days after his death, does that mean hes still alive?

"Im not sure what world you live in where all pregnant couples are married and thus entitled to child support. I also dont know why you would assume that all women have families they can turn to for help (especially in the places i mentioned wouldnt have suitable foster systems). There are millions of babies born every year in the world and not all of them are born in houses w. married parents (or two parents at all) and families. Sure, if you have the means to protect a born child, than you should have them and do it. Im talking about people who would literally have their lives (and the life of the child) runied by not having an abortion."

I never said all pregnant couples are married, I saids if they were they could easily claim child support. Yes not all women have friends and family they can turn to, but there is bound to be programs to help her. Even if abortion is the only option why third trimester, why not first trimester?

"As far as health, i am not advocating putting an unborn fetus to death because it would be born handicapped, but physical and mental abnormalities do not only effect the child, the effect the mother as well. If you're pregnant and your child develops cancer in the womb, the longer its in there, theres more of a cahnce the cancer spreads to you via blood stream."

I never said if her life was in danger to not kill it, because tha would eventually kill them both.

"But that brings me to another problem, you say that abortion is murder, but why are you setting perameters for when life begins? I hear people saying that once there is a heart beat, or a brain wave, the life is official, but says who? The being isn't concious and cant exist on its own. A dead person can have a heart beat and brain activity for hours, sometimes days after his death, does that mean hes still alive?"

If there is a chance that the being in question is alive, more harm would be done by killing it than to let it live. If there is a heart beat chances are it is alive. The dead man, he was alive at some point which is why his heart was ever able to beat. I wil no change my avatar, to my sister sucking her thumb for the purpose of this debate.

In places like africa, latin america, really anywhere without money, foster programs are virtually a death sentence themselves and many pregnant mothers are completely on their own. Sometimes situations dont present themselves as such until late in the pregnancy. If you think there is even a single situation where abortion is acceptable (because of heatlh, financial situation, ect.) than theres no reason doing it late is any different from doing it early. And in times where the mother could have the child and safley give it to adoption, why is it any worse in the 3rd trimester than in the 1st 6 months? those women in the first 6 months will eventually be in their 3rd, so why is it worse or better?

What were really arguing about her is weighing why early and late term abortions are different, and in reality, how ever you tihnk of aboritons, they really arent different at all.

And to the whole death thing, you claim that endangering what would be a life is wrong. Does that mean masterbation is the murder of 1,000s of babies? There is no clear and simple answer as to when a baby's life starts and neither of us are qualified to make that assumption (nor is any other non-divine being on this planet). Saying that its murder is just generalizing the action.