Liberalism and Communism Go Hand-in-Hand

So here's the deal. All these liberals that want to piss and moan about the way the Bush administration is handling the war and the economy are out for one reason. To convince people that Bush is wrong and liberals are right. Once that is accomplished and they get their Jihadi president in office they will be out for one thing...communism.

All along democrats have argued for a bigger role played by the government especially in the role of health care. Democrats think that a government controlled health care system is going to fix things for the "less fortunate" people, or as I call them, "lazy bums who want to live at the expense of us good taxpayers"

There is no logical reason why these people can't afford healthcare and its not because they didnt have money to go to college or grew up in a poor neighborhood, it's because they have no desire to work for a good living. My father grew up extremely poor and never saw a day of college in his life, but he did get one thing from being poor, a work ethic. He turned that work ethic into a career in sales and now makes over 170K.

Now democrats want to say that welfare and healthcare needs reformed and rich people should pay more taxes on their money. Tell my why someone who worked hard their whole life should have to pay for a good for nothing bum who wants to sit around his crappy house in the ghetto and not work? It doesn't make sense.

They want what they call a "level playing field" with a redistribution of wealth attitude. Redistribution of wealth only says one thing...COMMUNISM!

Alright. To begin I would like to lay down a few definitions.

Communism: a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. B: a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production D: a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably

Liberalism: theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard c: a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties

(definitions courtesy of Merriam-Webster.com)

There are certain HUGE and very noticeable differences betweem Communism and Liberalism.

1. Liberalism is "based on free competition and a self-regulating market". Communism does not! In order for communism to be classified as communism, the government must have control over the economy.

2. Liberalism emphasizes "the autonomy of the individual and stands for the protection of political and civil liberties."
Communism does not. Communism emphasizes comformity and takes away liberties such as the right to free speech, the right to practice religion (let alone the right to choose which religion you practice), the right to own property, and the right to own a business. These rights are rights the Liberalism fights for with passion.

Furthermore, two can play at this game!
Conservatism wants to ban flag burning! Thats a violation of free speech. Communism!
Conservatism wants ban homosexual marriage! Violation of a civil liberty. Communism!
Conservatism runs an economy that favor a small wealthy class and ignores a large middle class. Communism!
Liberalism promotes individual liberties in a way conservatism has never!

Now my point is not to accuse conservatives of being communist. That would be ridiculous. However, to call a Liberal a Communist is equally ridiculous. My opponent can find ways to prove the Liberalism parallels to communism, but I myself can find ways to parallel Conservatism to communism as well. We can can go in circles all day, but the truth will stand.

Liberalism is not communism.
Both accusations are insignifigant because of the vast amount of differences the two hold with communism.

Moving on, I would like to turn my your attention to this graph providid by Wikipedia which illustrates the political spectrum.

http://upload.wikimedia.org...

According to the chart, Liberalism is a solid 135 degrees from communism. That would mean that the two political theories are, in fact, almost complete opposites!!

Need I say more?

My opponents argument is based on the idea that liberalism in its most extreme form is communism.
That is a false notion.
Liberalism in its most extreme form, is anarchism, wich is VERY FAR from being communism!

According to the chart, a communist could never be a liberal because a liberal is not authoritative and, just as well, a liberal could never be a communist because communism IS authoritative.

Now, in closing, I would like to address a few of my opponents points.

1. My opponent stated:
"Once that is accomplished and they get their Jihadi president in office they will be out for one thing..."
-I had to address this point despite its irrelevance.
Jihadi???? You are going to accuse a man raised in kansas and hawaii by a christian mother, and by christian grandparents of being engaged in a islamic holy war because the father who he met ONCE when he was 10yrs old happened to be a muslim?
No. That's blatant ignorance, my friend. Leave your slandering neo-conservative traits out of this debate and lets argue with facts, not slander.
Fact: Barack Obama has been a practicing christian his entire life!

2. My opponent based his argument on Broad Generalizations that assume that everyone who is a liberal is in favor of a socialist agenda.
That is completely untrue. I myself am a liberal, yet I am STRONGLY against the idea of a making the US a welfare state, and I WILL NOT support socialized medicine.
Barack Obama has made those same statements himself.

My opponent cannot claim that 1.5 Billion people have the same political agenda because they are liberal.

Thanks for the Debate!

It seems my opponent has foreited his turn to post a rebuttal...
so...
My point still stands. Liberalism DOES NOT go hand in hand with communism.

I dunno why you would start this debate if you couldnt finish it...
oh well...
Vote Con!