Satanism is a detriment to the United States of America.

Satanism as defined by dictionary.com as the worship of Satan powers of evil as being diabolical and and having a satanic disposition and behaviour. Seeing as how Satanism ENCOURAGES people to commit illegal activity and horrifying beahvaiour let it be resolved that Satanism is a burden upon this great nation. In a documentay on the History Channel High Priest of the Church of Satan Peter H. Gilmore said "Do what makes you happy!If taking thing fufills you individual pleasure then do it!If sex fufills your individual pleasure do it!". Now as we all know robbery is a crime in the USA so when Peter says do it cause it gives you pleasure he is condoning robbery. So therefore Satanism is detrimenting the USA. According to Laveyan Satanism the well know actvist known as Lavey (In my opinion a fool and a troublemaker..) states that they must "Destroy" someone who bothers you.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org...

For example say you are at a party someone asks you to dance you say no and they coutinue asking you should physically assault them. This is illegal! Laveya has just encouraged an illegal acticity and while they are bleeding the satanist is expected to jump around sayin Yippiee Kai Yay i beat someone up! *joking* Satanist are therefore a burden that America constantly carries.

And keep reading his list of commandments do you really think this is the type of doctrine America should have to put up with half of those thinng on his liitle "list" are illegal!

Finally I would like to also sate Satanism encourages people to have sexual freedom and have sex like crazy! This is pretty much their way of attempting to spread AIDS! Are they thrying to start another sexual diesease epidemic! Having promisucous sex is a way to rapidly spread AIDS and a such is a detriment to this great nation.

I must disagree wholeheartedly - Satanism is indeed HELPFUL to the United States of America.

I will go through some numbered premises, making it easy for my opponent to state his objections to my case.

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1. Satanism attracts the kind of people who are already detrimental to society

To clarify, bythis I mean that the overwhelming majority of Satanists are either morons and/or are already morally bankrupt. Satanism does not appeal to many people who know how to use their brains. Satanism does not appeal to many morally-upstanding people.

From this, I could already argue that satanism doesn't actually cause any detrimental behavior itself, it just groups detrimental individuals together. Since these individuals would likely have been just as bad anyway, Satanism isn't actually causing any harm.

However, I will go much further than that.

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2. Satanism is an unfavorable trait as far as natural selection is concerned.

Satanists have a much lower chance of successfully passing on their genes than say, a Christian. Why?

a. People hate satanists.
b. Satanism encourages dangerous activities - ones that could end in imprisonment or death.
c. Satanists are not the type of folks who would think twice about getting an abortion when it comes to unwanted children.

From (a), simply by being a Satanist a person lowers his or her chance of successfully passing on their genes. This is good, because it stops moronic and/or morally bankrupt people from successfully mating.

From (b), to the extent that Satanism causes bad and dangerous behavior that wouldn't otherwise happen [if it does at all], it also lowers the chances of a person successfully passing on their genes. This is because society punishes people for bad behavior, and nature punishes people for dangerous behavior.

From (c), to the extent that Satanism causes abortions that would not otherwise happen [if it causes these at all], we see that Satanists have a lower chance of successfully passing on their genes.

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3. Therefore, Satanism weeds out the kind of folks we don't want in our society.

Since satanism attracts moronic and/or morally bankrupt people, and it is unfavorable as far as natural selection is concerned, satanism acts as a force that slowly eats away at a moronic and/or morally bankrupt part of society. This is no doubt helpful to society at large.

I believe that is sufficient, especially in a 4-round debate. Good luck to my opponent, and thanks for starting the debate.

Just because they gather together dosent mean that they are good. They are detrimental people doing detrimental things like encouraging illegal activity.

Example: The KKK they may be a group of racist buttfuckin (Pardon my French)
animals. Yet in 1956 they numbered in the tens of thousands because they expanded and spread there sick doctrine the same with Satanists so you see they ARE engaging in detrimental activity which is encouraging illegal beavurior Con suggests we stick our heads in the dirt and ignore the problem just like the Iraq War (Dont get worked up folks thats a debate for later ^__^) Basically the gathering of bad people will lead to more bad things!

Anywho your second statement revolves around the fact that Satanism is a genetic trait this is compelely retarded and moronic. As Satanism is a beleif not something you could pass on......as a genetic trait that is.

*If anyone would like to accept this debate in a more intelligent fashion please make a comment below so i dont have to do deal with unitelligent debaters trying to be cute and funny: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA *Sarcastic Laugh aimed towards are good friend beem0r

It seems my opponent understood none of my argument.

First, I never argued that they 'gather together' or anything like that. They don't, anyway - they're very unorganized as a religion/philosophy.

My argument is as follows. Hopefully my opponent will understand this time.

FIRST, Satanism does not appeal to most people. It appeals to people who are bad people anyway. In most cases, the bad things these people do would happen anyway. For example, a person who likes to steal things might decide to believe in Satanism to rationalize his actions. If he steals something again the next day, this is not Satanism's fault. With or without Satanism, the theft would have occurred.

NEXT, I did NOT argue that Satanism is a genetic trait. However, being moronic and being morally bankrupt ARE.
1. Satanism attracts morons and morally bankrupt folks.
2. Satanism causes these people to be less successful in passing on their traits to the next generation. [Because people don't like satanists, because satanism might encourage some level of illegal activity [which society punishes], satanism might encourage some level of dangerous activity [which nature punishes], and because satanism might encourage a higher abortion rate].
3. Satanism therefore reduces the amount of moronic and morally bankrupt people.

There was nothing cute or funny about my argument. My opponent did not address either of my two arguments. Here they are again.

1. Satanism attracts moronic and morally bankrupt individuals.
2. Satanism causes followers to be less likely to successfully breed.

And therefore, it acts as a force that makes moronic and orally bankrupt people less common, which is certainly a good thing.

Well first off I would like to say beem0r was unclear in his arguments and as such I did not take them seriously now allow me to refute them.

Let start of by saying my opponent lacks adequate knowledge about the subject as he said that Satanaism is an unorganized religon/philosphy this statement is false as Satanism has a hiraechal structure with its own scriptures and rituals.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org...

Now to refute my opponents first argument. My opponent states bad people join Satanism to rationalize their actions and as such they would have done it anyways. However my opponent fails to realize that the point still satnds that Satanism is still a detriment to the U.S.

Allow me to make a quick example paralleling Satansim to Racism

Example: Cutburt is a racist and enjoys to lynch people. He joins the KKK to ratioanlize his murderous and morally bankrupt tendencies. Cutburt is still a detriment to the USA and grouping him with people of the same category makes the problem worse! 1 Cutburt is bad enough but thousands is insane! Just like with Satanism it attracts the evil, but don't you think grouping these people under the same creed will cause more burden and problems for America. My opponent states that a theif would still steal with or without Satanism, but dont you think it would be worse if he was with Satanism instead of getting help or turning his life around. With Satanism the man is instructed to futher exploit criminal activity to hurt people or even worse this is where the detriment lies!

Finally allow me to move into my opponent's second argument Satanism will not attarct people because they are morally bankrupt and will push them away so that their traits will not be passed on to others. This is false! In 1975 they were about a few thousand proclaimed Satanists world wide now there are tens of thousands! Even if they are evil they still have ways of persuading people or it would have collapsed in the first generation that started it.

In conclusion I beleive my opponent has produced no sources or any statistical information as I have done in my openning argument as such I find it necessary that you vote PRO ont his issue. Thank You ladies and gentlemen.

In the interest of fairness, I'm just going to say what I said in the comment section shortly after I forfeited R3. Nothing new.

Gah. Sorry about missing R3. I was only going to reiterate my original points again.

I already made the point that Satanists don't actually gather [like the KKK does, for example], so that argument is invalid. Satanists are not more dangerous because of they're all 'gathered' in one place. They aren't gathered. As I stated in R2, they're not organized at all.

Next, realize that my opponent has not actually argued against my other argument. I stated that Satanism caused 'morally bankrupt' and 'moronic' to be less commin in future generations. The fact that it is growing as a religion only speeds up this process.
Note: It is not growing because it's being passed on from father to son. It's growing because more people are adopting its views. It still stands that Satanists would almost certainly be less likely to successfully breed.