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everseeingeye
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God_Almighty
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The Theory of evolution is a lie! We did not come from monkeys!

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Started: 5/17/2008 Category: Science
Updated: 6 months ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 328 times Debate No: 4074
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everseeingeye

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1 debate per person please.

1 debate per person please.

I can't imagine how you can believe we came from monkeys. doesn't it just make more sense to just say we adapted? Just because we changed our environment doesn't mean we automativally can mutate ourselves and just "evolve." When people get mutetions, they suffer from various illnesses. Can you name me ONE mutation that is positive? Just one. That's all I'm asking for. You can't, simply because there is none. We are made in the image of God, our heavenly father, so when genes in our body changes it goes from good to something bad.

How can you explain how things so complex such as the eye can just have "evolved"? you can't. The fact is, evolution takes faith. How you can believe in something that is so absurd with no evidence is beyond me. Do you realize the probability of us getting here by "chance" is so miniscule that it takes more faith for you to believe in evolution than it takes to believe in unicornes.

Every time I talk to athiests, they can't back their claimes up. All they do is resort to ad-hominem attacks, because that's all they've got. When it all boils down, they have no evidence.

So I challenge you, show me the FACTS, show me the Evidence, to justify this belief, because when it all boils down to, you really have none, don't you.
God_Almighty

Con

First of all, little creature, I really appreciate your enthusiasm. The most difficult thing about being God is the loneliness, and it softens the distance a bit to see someone on your level trying to figure me out, no matter how futile the effort.

Actually, I would only debate your first assertion, that your fellow humans with whom you do not feel you have a common understanding are in fact lying to you. As to your second assertion, I can reassure you, you do not come from monkeys. Even given your narrow understanding of your universe, channeled within a unilateral framework of time, it would be more accurate to say that you and monkeys come from the same grandmothers. And trust me, the monkeys are no more proud of having a common ancestor to you than are Africans or myself. But, as you have probably realized, we don't pick our kin. We are simply related.

We are in the same bubble of the multiverse, our proximity is our kinship. This is true in any manner in which you may measure it, whether it be genetic or energetic. I won't burden you too greatly with things that you won't understand, but it is in fact a major project of my own to find a way to bridge between our bubble, and the bubble next door. I suspect there may be another God Almighty monodeity there, and I am very curious to know what happens when we touch.

But let me visit your principal assertion, that the human scientists are lying to you. They are not lying, they are describing their formula for organizing the observable phenomena of the material human experience in a manner which is more comprehensible to the human mind. So it is truly irrelevant to try to frame the discussion in terms of truth or lie.

If you look around you, you will see that everything is changing all of the time. You are different from your parents and your brothers and sisters. Dogs are different from wolves; and in fact you humans have isolated little eddies of energy, which you may describe as gene pools, to create breeds of domesticated dogs in as little as a hundred years. Even the earth itself is moving and changing constantly, the rocks around you are moving.

Simply put, you are where you are in all of this. Some things are moving too fast for you to see, and some are moving too slowly. But if you believe that your perception is the definition absolute, then I must ask you: which one of us is God here, anyway?
Debate Round No. 1
everseeingeye

Pro

Hah! What kind of God are you? The God of the apes? HAHA! If you believe God made evolution then you also believe god's creations are not perfect. Therefore you also must believe that God is not perfect.
God_Almighty

Con

God_Almighty forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
everseeingeye

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everseeingeye forfeited this round.
God_Almighty

Con

God_Almighty forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by bthr004 6 months ago
bthr004
If we evovled from apes, than why didnt the rest of ape population come with, why didnt they evolve as well??
How did WE evolve so rapidly and develop so much influential power and intelligence, yet, monkeys have just been monkeys for centuries? One hundered years ago the human race didnt have space travel, t.v. computers, etc,. hundred years later we do,.. yet monkeys have not progressed one bit, nor has anyother animal.
Why didnt apes evolve from us? That idea would seem more logical, especially considering some of the people I have meant.
Posted by Harlan 6 months ago
Harlan
Maybe god does not see things in terms of perfect or imperfect, everseeingeye, maybe all things are inherently holly -"perfect", even- in thier natural state.

It is the concept of pu', "the uncarved block".
Posted by Spiral 6 months ago
Spiral
everseeingeye:

Mutations: http://www.talkorigins.org...
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