The president of Iran does not hate jews.
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| Started: | 2/21/2008 | Category: | Politics |
| Updated: | 9 months ago | Status: | Voting Period |
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This is actually pretty easy to defend. So whoever is out there that seems to think this is incorrect step up to the plate.
I'll open with video evidence and then continue in my next arguement with posts and more video evidence as needed. Notice in this video how The Jewish star, the US name, a White Hosue formation and the Nazi symbol are all used in unison to show a similar relationship. This video shows the army piercing through an apparent symbol of the israel flag And perhaps the most blatant proof of them all is the President of Iran himself saying Israel is Satan. Followed by "Death To Israel." |
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The topic is weather Ahmadinejad hates jews or not. I think you got side-tracked. I watched all three of the videos on you tube that you linked above. (Thanks for making them somewhat short. I was hoping I didn't have to watch 3 hours of video) I think without a doubt, those three short excerpts show that Iran is definitely not happy with the United States and Israel. However it does not show that Iran is unhappy with the people of these countries. It clearly is representing the Governments of the two countries.
Let me state that last part very very clearly. There is a huge difference between being against a particular govt. and being against an actual group of people. Ahmadinejad doesn't hate Jews. He hates the Zionist Govt. in control in Israel. Did you know orthodox jews are completely against Zionism too? Matter of fact, the orthodox jews and Ahmadinejad have a pretty good relationship. They both agree that the existing problem in Israel isn't Jews, Muslims, Christians, its ZIONISM. FiredUpRepublican forfeited this round. |
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I don't really have much more to say except the fact this must be about 100 characters long. 6 more.
"The topic is weather Ahmadinejad hates jews or not. I think you got side-tracked. I watched all three of the videos on you tube that you linked above. (Thanks for making them somewhat short. I was hoping I didn't have to watch 3 hours of video) I think without a doubt, those three short excerpts show that Iran is definitely not happy with the United States and Israel. However it does not show that Iran is unhappy with the people of these countries. It clearly is representing the Governments of the two countries." You said hatred and indeed it is evident. In the videos you see them chant "Death To Israel" time and time again. At no time is it anywhere clarified that it is solely geared towards the Governments. In order to want somebody to die, you must have a sense of hatred for them. "Let me state that last part very very clearly. There is a huge difference between being against a particular govt. and being against an actual group of people." And these videos prove my point. Not to mention the fact he disregards the Holocaust as a myth Jews made up. He has directly criticized the Jews on more than a dozen occassions as "occupiers" in a country they don't deserve to control. His saying he disagrees with the governments are a small factor, if not a cover up for his feelings. You see, the Iranian President seeks to gain support around the world for his ridiculous rhetoric and as long as we buy into his farces, he will continue to gain steam. "Did you know orthodox jews are completely against Zionism too? Matter of fact, the orthodox jews and Ahmadinejad have a pretty good relationship. They both agree that the existing problem in Israel isn't Jews, Muslims, Christians, its ZIONISM." I would like to see evidence of this from a reputtable source. As the Bible states Israel was given to the Jews by God. The Orthodox Jews only represent a portion and you forgot to include "some" as in "minority" of Orthodox Jews. |
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As an orthodox jew I can say this is absoluetly false.
there is one small sect consisting of maybe 500 Jews called Niturei Karta who believe that Jews should not return to Israel until the Messiah comes.
But believe me if they believe that teh Messiah has come, they will not be standing next to Ahmadinejad.
As far as Ron Paul I support his views on the federal reserve, our foreign policy, income tax, and abortion.
Socialism is the government ownership and operation of the means of production.
Libertarians believe in the government owning and operating no means of production.
So when you claimed you were a socialist and wanted to vote for Ron Paul, I was at a loss for words.
As an Orthodox Jew, I don't like the Israeli government the way it is now, but that doesn't mean we don't support the Zionism as put forth by Theodor Herzl. Out of all the Orthodox Jews, only a small percentage of us are aginst Zionism. These jews are known as the Neturei Karta.
The vast majority of Orthodox Jews are for Zionism, and as such, The only Jews that get along with Ahmadinejad are the Neturei Karta.