The suffering of mankind [in this life or the after-life is not the fault of God.

Oaky I believe that this topic of debate is pretty self explanitory. Everyday horrible autrocities happen. People are murdered, rapped, robbed, and treated like trash, but God cannot be blammed for these happenings. It is all the doing of man, and whats worse is that lots of people are sent to hell all the time. God cannot be blammed for this either, because that us the fault of that indivisual. Overall we know right from wrong, sometimes we feel as if we cannot help doing the wrong thing when placed in a certian situation, but in most cases we can, we just cannot [or dont want to] see it any other way.

Life is just one big test of endurance. Can you endure the challenges it throws at you, or will you fall victum to life's autrocities? Only God can answer that, but only you can make it happen, and if you happen to fall into the losers bracket, God cannot be blammed, nor the guy that stole your car, or your abusive steapfather[just examples]. ONLY YOU! You, as well as every other human being suffer at the hands of other humans, and weather or not you become like those oppresors is not the decision of God nor the fault of God. IT IS ALL UP TO YOU!

Well, Im done ranting. Im gonna save my real arguments for the debate, but first lemme set down some groundrules.

i. I am a Muslim, as a result I will speak and explain myself from a Muslim POV.. I would greatly appreciate it if the person who ends up being my opponant tries to respect my religion and [if you must] argue against my logic as far as the debate goes rather then my religious views.

ii. Though my opponant my or may not believe in God, I would like him/her to remain respectful of him while speaking.

iii. Overall respect the debate and stay within it's boundaries please and i will respect you.

Thank you. I wish you the best of luck. Peace and blessings of Allah be upon you.

Certainly one could claim that other people are responsible for the bad things that they do to others. Their choices are to murder, rape, rob you and that is why those things happens. What about those things which aren't the product of human will?

About a quarter million people were killed because of the the Boxer Day Tsunami. Are you telling me that the suffering a child ripped from the arms of her mother and drowned in the ocean just to wash ashore a few days later bloated and white is caused by human choices?

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i. Okay. Muslim is a fine point of view to speak from as it is just as silly and wrong as other religious viewpoints.

ii. I certainly do not believe in God. I don't bother to remain respectful of Santa Claus, Djin, or Fairies as they don't exist. Allah will receive as much respect as the non-existent typically enjoy.

iii. Nothing about respecting the non-existent should reflect on the respect shown to me. I certainly exist. You exist and I'll be as respectful to you as I would be to anyone. However, I don't believe there much need to respect the non-existent.

About a quarter million people were killed because of the the Boxer Day Tsunami. Are you telling me that the suffering a child ripped from the arms of her mother and drowned in the ocean just to wash ashore a few days later bloated and white is caused by human choices?

Oh well.

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