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Nitpelk
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VenomousNinja
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Yraelz, beem0r, Logical-Master, and SportsGuru ought to be kicked off debate.com

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Started: 5/10/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 3 months ago Status: Voting Period
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Nitpelk

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I've been watching these guys debates for 2 months now and I think they've dragged this website straight to hell. The "frightful four" should be removed from debate.com with great haste and I will give you reasons why.

#1. They all clog this site with stupid debates.

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All of these debates are devoid of any intellectualism. They all concern topics that are the epitome of triviality and are just plain childish. Does "I can hold a chicken with my butt" make any sense to you? Or how about "Under the Below listed rules, my opponent will lose this debate." Utter nonsense. All of these topics only manage to drive away the people who are honestly seeking to be enlightened. BUT I tell you that there is no enlightenment in any of the bullcrap topics listed above.

#2. They are probably the same person. They all like to comment on each other's debates, they all follow the same points of their discussions too closely (as if they know what each other is thinking), they all sound alike ("My opponent did this, my opponent did that), they all seem to be well versed when it comes to logical fallacies, they all seem to be obsessed with video games like Final Fantasy ("DUDE, YOU GOTTA GET THE NEW CRISIS CORE VIDEO GAME, H'YUCK, H'YUCK, H'YUCK"). And with being the same person, they can rig as many votes in debates. I'm not the only one who notices this as people are starting to retaliate against them through voting against them on all of their debates. After you read this debate, I implore you to vote against all of their debates as well.

And I know SportsGuru is logical master. This debate is proof: http://www.debate.com... Doesn't it alarm you that he just HAPPENS to know what Logical master said in his previous debates and that he just HAPPENS to use arguments which Logical master used before? It's all pretty convenient, don't you think? And I've read some comments and have seen sportsguru as being one of the main ones to attack others for claiming that Logical Master is Kleptin. Too convenient: http://www.debate.com...

And I've read the tournament page and facebook and recently saw logical master (aka Apollo Justice) suggest that substitutions be allowed in debates. And guess who he wanted to be his substitute? Yraelz and Kleptin. Awfully suspicious, eh? After getting OWNED by Rob1billion, he knew was in trouble, so he used his other account to put himself back in the tournament. As a bonus, he put his alter ego (Kleptin) back in as well.

This group must be stopped at all cost. I figured one of them would use some stupid semantical argument, so I made this one round so I wouldn't even have to dignify those jokers with a debate. Take that!
VenomousNinja

Con

"I've been watching these guys debates for 2 months now"
Really? You've been roaming around debate.com for two months and JUST joined on the tenth?
Strange.

"#1. They all clog this site with stupid debates."
Debate.com is for almost all debates. Only those deemed inappropriate by the staff actually 'clog' debate.com. If a debate is not deemed inappropriate by the staff, then it matters not if the debate in question is 'stupid' or not.

"All of these debates are devoid of any intellectualism. They all concern topics that are the epitome of triviality and are just plain childish."
Simply because a debate is trivial or childish does not mean it avoids intellectualism. In fact, most of the debates you mentioned require an insane amount of intellict in order to prove their claims.

"Does "I can hold a chicken with my butt" make any sense to you? Or how about "Under the Below listed rules, my opponent will lose this debate." Utter nonsense."
Both of those pharses makes perfect sense to me, and as such, it is your word against mine.

"All of these topics only manage to drive away the people who are honestly seeking to be enlightened."
I doubt that people who wish to be 'enlightened' would be attracted to the phrase "I can hold a whole chick with my butt".

"They all like to comment on each other's debates,"
Wow, it's not like it's possible that they've become friends! That's simply improbable.

"they all follow the same points of their discussions too closely"
Well, seeing as how it's THEIR discussions, and seeing as how there are only a few points at one time to discuss in any discussion, I'd say that following the same point in a discussion as another in that discussion isn't to strange.

"they all sound alike"
Great debaters debate alike. Just as great minds think alike.

"they all seem to be well versed when it comes to logical fallacies"
Great debaters debate alike.

"they all seem to be obsessed with video games like Final Fantasy"
Video games, especially those such as Finaly Fantasy, are very popular. It may turn out that they have similar interests and are friends.

"And with being the same person, they can rig as many votes in debates."
They can do that without being the same person.

"Doesn't it alarm you that he just HAPPENS to know what Logical master said in his previous debates and that he just HAPPENS to use arguments which Logical master used before?"
Yes, it is very alarming that one can simply go and read past debates for arguments in current debate! It's very alarming!

"And I've read some comments and have seen sportsguru as being one of the main ones to attack others for claiming that Logical Master is Kleptin."
Great debaters debate alike. And this is the internet.
Alike people on the internet are many times accused of being the same person.

"And guess who he wanted to be his substitute? Yraelz and Kleptin"
There is the possibility that Yraelz, Kleptin, and Logical Master are friends.

"After getting OWNED by Rob1billion, he knew was in trouble, so he used his other account to put himself back in the tournament."
Actually, maybe he just wanted to debate someone that he knew he had a chance against, seeing as how Logical Master seems to(according to you) comment on Kleptin's debates, so he must read them, and as such must know at least a little of Kleptin's debating style.

"I made this one round so I wouldn't even have to dignify those jokers with a debate"
So, in other words, you completely ruined the point of starting a debate on debate.com?
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Pluto2493 4 months ago
Pluto2493
hey wait a minute. Half of those debates were set up by another person and they accepted the challenge, like mine v. SportsGuru about AVGN. And that's not a stupid debate.

Although I must agree that Yreaelz LM and Kleptin are the same person ;)
Posted by Yraelz 4 months ago
Yraelz
Oh my, this gets more complicated by the moment. Actually that is interesting, I wonder why you got left out and sportsguru was substituted.
Posted by Kleptin 4 months ago
Kleptin
Wait a minute. I just noticed something very peculiar

LM, Yraelz, one of you are playing some sort of practical joke on me aren't you? Very funny. Nitpelk. And it's a Kirby just like me.
Posted by Kleptin 4 months ago
Kleptin
I feel left out ;( I'm not on the list because I never participated in these...meta-debates ...
Posted by Yraelz 4 months ago
Yraelz
Dude.... weak sauce, you're missing this as evidence:

http://www.debate.com...

Pretty legit source if you ask me, obviously owned.
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